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Offline Rodrigo (gp)

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Blackphone
« on: January 15, 2014, 01:11:56 AM »
we are proud to announce http://www.blackphone.ch 

The next generation in privacy..... ;)

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Re:Blackphone
« Reply #1 on: January 15, 2014, 02:05:38 AM »
OK, let's have some feelings.

- wow! it's not GP's communication team that worked on blackphone! (or not the same that worked on revolution ^^)
that sounds to be a great project :)

- it is based on android. so, how deep do you go in the source code to modify it? or do you just compile android and add some applications such as crypt sms application?
do you use an already existing android based distribution?
are all the google parts removed or not?

- blackphone seems to be just a phone with a specific android in it. so, what will be the license of all the components in this distrib? will there be some private parts? where can we find the source code?

- will it be possible to install this specific android distrib in the revolution?

- will it be possible to install firefox OS on the blackphone, and will you provide it?

- finally: rodrigo, are you a native french speaker?


all the best for this project ;)

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Re:Blackphone
« Reply #2 on: January 15, 2014, 02:43:53 AM »
I'm also interesting if Boot2Gecko/FirefoxOS is supported.
And if the Revolution can have the same Android version.
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Re:Blackphone
« Reply #3 on: January 15, 2014, 03:18:26 AM »
Does it have anything to do with google ?
Google owns android right ?

For me google have become the opposit of privacy. Constantly asking for my phonenumber and private info and not allowing me to write comments on youtube unless i upgrade to google+ and enter info about myself and they drive around in freaking cars taking pictures into peoples homes putting them online without asking and its also ilegal.

For me a phone with google can not be a privacy phone.

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Re:Blackphone
« Reply #4 on: January 15, 2014, 03:32:39 AM »
Android is open source, and without the Google apps (gmail, chrome, youtube, google+, drive, hangouts, google search, etc. http://www.google.com/mobile/android/) you have a pretty clear phone
Google push all more apps from native Android to removable apps.
eg in 4.4 the photo viewer is now also a app that you can find in the play store.
And if you encrypt all internet traphic, and dont use google products, you are pretty Google free.
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Re:Blackphone
« Reply #5 on: January 15, 2014, 04:04:58 AM »
a question could be: how far android is secure?
of course, google apps are a pretty big open door for NSA... but android itself? the open source part?

I don't think there have been a study on that, and it is a shame... because, as somebody said: this is not because it is freesoftware that it is secure (with no backdoor, free-bugs...). it only makes audit easier.

there actually is an audit for truecrypt: http://istruecryptauditedyet.com/
it follows the snowden story, and as lots of people use truecrypt, they want to verify that the company is not linked with the NSA, or whatever other big brother like.

doing the same with the open source part of android may be worth it (I never know how to use this expression "worth it"...)

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Re:Blackphone
« Reply #6 on: January 16, 2014, 12:05:53 PM »
You are absolutely right! FOSS is the only possible way to make sure that there's no backdoor included. Because if one includes cryptography software it needs to be reviewed by other independent people before you can speak about it of secure software.
For all of you that are interested in that topic there's an amazing clear talk from the last Chaos Communication Congress "Kryptographie nach Snowden" (german, I'm sure there must be an english translated version too). For those of you who have little time, I want to point you to minute 45:05 - 46:30 (about FOSS) and minute 52:02 (about OTR)

@Geeksphone: What about OTR implementation in PrivatOS?

Edit: Found the english version of the talk mentioned above.
« Last Edit: January 16, 2014, 12:25:32 PM by chrisphl »
kind regards
Christian


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Re:Blackphone
« Reply #7 on: February 24, 2014, 10:35:57 AM »
I've seen in twitter some blackphone specs:
"Blackphone is powered by a >2 GHz quad-core SoC and features a full set of premium features, such as a 4.7" HD IPS screen, LTE, HSPA+, 2GB DDR3 RAM, 16GB of storage, >8MP primary camera with flash and 1.3MP front camera, Bluetooth 4.0, 802.11n WiFi, GPS, and more"
I wonder what SoC is.

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Re:Blackphone
« Reply #8 on: April 22, 2014, 07:08:27 AM »
SoC = System-on-Chip or System on a Chip

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Re:Blackphone
« Reply #9 on: May 20, 2014, 09:12:14 PM »
It sounds like a very interesting phone, though it is quite unfortunate that it seems it won't include FM radio?

I would hope a privacy-oriented $600-ish phone would have an FM radio - after all, 6 year old smartphones/feature-phones have this feature, it is un-trackable and cheaper than 3g internet-radio. Maybe on the Blackphone-2?

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Re: Blackphone
« Reply #10 on: December 06, 2016, 12:27:15 AM »
it follows the snowden story, and as lots of people use truecrypt, they want to verify that the company is not linked with the NSA, or whatever other big brother like.
I think so . . .