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Peak+ is not Firefox OS device!
« en: Julio 27, 2013, 10:29:46 pm »
http://techcrunch.com/2013/07/25/peak-plus/ published update "... Peak+ is not a Firefox OS phone ... is based on Boot to Gecko technology with pre-release software, but is not a certified or supported Firefox OS device." Sure any developer expects it to be certified and supported by Mozilla Firefox OS.
Are there any point on releasing such a device?
Does Geeksphone has anything to say about it?

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Re: Peak+ is not Firefox OS device!
« Respuesta #1 en: Julio 28, 2013, 09:32:30 am »
Hello.

If you read all the update: This is basically an issue of brand control. Firefox OS branding scheme is currently only available to carrier-backed devices.

In the technical side of OS there is no difference, is identical.... ;)

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Re: Peak+ is not Firefox OS device!
« Respuesta #2 en: Julio 29, 2013, 12:32:34 am »
http://techcrunch.com/2013/07/25/peak-plus/ published update "... Peak+ is not a Firefox OS phone ... is based on Boot to Gecko technology with pre-release software, but is not a certified or supported Firefox OS device." Sure any developer expects it to be certified and supported by Mozilla Firefox OS.
Are there any point on releasing such a device?
Does Geeksphone has anything to say about it?

To make things clear... The only difference will be that you wont get the Mozilla logos.

For Peak (not plus) Mozilla dont event want to support the 1.1 version and you get it.


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Re: Peak+ is not Firefox OS device!
« Respuesta #3 en: Julio 29, 2013, 01:32:11 am »
i think this behaviour if Mozilla is harming an ecosystemthey want to create. they should be grsteful to geeksphone building developer momentum.
to whom at mozilla should we talk to asking them to revise their decision on the peak?

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Re: Peak+ is not Firefox OS device!
« Respuesta #4 en: Julio 29, 2013, 03:26:39 am »
For Peak (not plus) Mozilla dont event want to support the 1.1 version and you get it.

You mean there is no chance in getting 1.1 via OTA on Peak? After 1.1 getting signed off by Mozilla I mean...

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Re: Peak+ is not Firefox OS device!
« Respuesta #5 en: Julio 29, 2013, 03:34:25 am »
For Peak (not plus) Mozilla dont event want to support the 1.1 version and you get it.

You mean there is no chance in getting 1.1 via OTA on Peak? After 1.1 getting signed off by Mozilla I mean...

No, what i want to say is that some months ago they dont event whant to support the Peak display resolution officially. Now you will have 1.1 in Peak by FOTA when becames stable.

1.1 for Peak+ will be internally exactly the same (in features) that 1.1 for Peak but without the Mozilla logos (No blue boot screen and blue circle for browser and not firefox logo).

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Re: Peak+ is not Firefox OS device!
« Respuesta #6 en: Julio 29, 2013, 04:35:40 am »
Now you will have 1.1 in Peak by FOTA when becames stable.

Now it's crystal clear. Thank you.

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Re: Peak+ is not Firefox OS device!
« Respuesta #7 en: Julio 29, 2013, 03:59:57 pm »
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i think this behaviour if Mozilla is harming an ecosystemthey want to create. they should be grsteful to geeksphone building developer momentum.
to whom at mozilla should we talk to asking them to revise their decision on the peak?

What The Frack?
Because Peak+ is not sold by an operator, he can not have official Firefox OS?

It's a shame for Mozilla to do this. It's an carriers lobby.

I just preorder Peak+ but if it's not official Firefox OS, I don't want anymore.

« última modificación: Julio 30, 2013, 03:50:16 am por caprican »

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Re: Peak+ is not Firefox OS device!
« Respuesta #9 en: Julio 30, 2013, 01:17:36 am »
[I'll be so ironic] So, can we call version 1.1 IceWeaselOS, like mod version of firefox on Debian, or AuroraOS, like pre-beta builds on pc?  ;D [Fragmentation, Fragmentation, Fragmentation :P ]

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Re: Peak+ is not Firefox OS device!
« Respuesta #10 en: Julio 30, 2013, 07:33:10 am »
I sent a email to ask for some information about that subject, and Geeksphone gave me a bunch of good and satisfactory pieces of information.

It's only a problem of brand control; so perhaps i'd be good to explain it as clearly as possible on the Geeksphone's web, so that people didn't get nervous nor reluctant to buy a Peak+.

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Re: Peak+ is not Firefox OS device!
« Respuesta #11 en: Julio 30, 2013, 07:44:33 am »
It's only a problem of brand control; so perhaps i'd be good to explain it as clearly as possible on the Geeksphone's web, so that people didn't get nervous nor reluctant to buy a Peak+.

+1

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Re: Peak+ is not Firefox OS device!
« Respuesta #12 en: Julio 30, 2013, 11:34:10 am »
You can't have an ecosystem without developers. Treating a developer-focused device as a second class citizen is a letdown, to put it mildly. But I'm talking about Peak here, not Peak+. Sorry for the off-topic.

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Re: Peak+ is not Firefox OS device!
« Respuesta #13 en: Julio 30, 2013, 12:02:10 pm »
@luis.cervo thanks for making this clear.
this overly strict brand control certainly does harm to mozillas efforts in my view. also it is not very nice towards geeksphone as a early supporter.

i am bit disappointed of mozilla, they could have been more clear in their response to the techcrunch article...

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Re: Peak+ is not Firefox OS device!
« Respuesta #14 en: Julio 31, 2013, 12:35:27 am »
@luis.cervo thanks for the clarification on the v1.1 Peak support from Mozilla.

I am very disappointed with Mozilla on this; it not a very nice thing to do to Geeksphone and sends a very bad signal to early adopters of their Mobile phone OS...